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srca1941 Member	posted November 24, 2002 01:30 AM I think that this book first deserves Archive treatment (in time for the Jeff Smith mini-series), and then after a couple of years can be re-released as a TPB in different trade dress. This way everybody can afford the book, it's restoration is paid for (at least largely) through archiving, and TPB readers get to sample more archive material. Sound fair? -Steve ------------------ Visit "The Golden Years" http://www.goldenyears.cjb.net My "Future Archives" Page: http://www.dcarchives.cjb.net IP: Logged
Shazamium Member	posted November 25, 2002 09:29 PM quote: Originally posted by srca1941: I think that this book first deserves Archive treatment (in time for the Jeff Smith mini-series), and then after a couple of years can be re-released as a TPB in different trade dress. This way everybody can afford the book, it's restoration is paid for (at least largely) through archiving, and TPB readers get to sample more archive material. Sound fair? -Steve Sounds more than fair to me, Steve. I'd like to have a TPB edition that I could afford multiples of. What a great Christmas gift! IP: Logged
wilson Member	posted November 26, 2002 04:14 PM I´m for it and I know two other guys who would buy it here. IP: Logged
macleanalan Member	posted November 27, 2002 06:21 AM Bring it on! I'd love to read it but my dad in particular would be most happy at the prospect.. IP: Logged
GDL Member	posted November 27, 2002 02:12 PM I'd like to see this done in the Archives format first as well...but I wouldn't kick if a TPB came out! ------------------ Proud member of Hal's Emerald Advancement Team Hal fans aren't going away...YOU "Get Over It"! Also co-founder of the Golden age Sandman club/group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldenagesandman/ DEATH to the 90's Tinfoil Age Of Comics! Green Lantern 1940-1993, 2002-? IP: Logged
Shazamgrrl Member	posted November 28, 2002 02:19 AM Me, either! IP: Logged
dadkrel Member	posted November 28, 2002 08:08 AM quote: Originally posted by Shazamgrrl: Dear DC, We, the undersigned, would like to request that you reprint the Captain Marvel serial, "The Monster Society of Evil", published in Captain Marvel Adventures #'s 22 - 46, in an affordable TPB format. ----------------------------------------------------- It seems to me, Shazamgrrl, that if we could get DC to set up a SHAZAM! Archive Book of the Month Club, you would have a better chance of getting the reprinted material you want. After all, the administrators of Book Club, created to serve the special interests of Shazam fans, would be more than interested in supplying the needs of Shazam fans. It would be their job to supply your needs! IP: Logged
fundacaoesfincter Member	posted November 28, 2002 03:05 PM I'd buy it at once!!!!! ...perhaps it could be offered as a "companion" piece to Jeff Smith's upcoming Shazam mini series in 2004. So there's still hope! FUND IP: Logged
dadkrel Member	posted November 28, 2002 04:10 PM quote: Originally posted by fundacaoesfincter: I'd buy it at once!!!!! ...perhaps it could be offered as a "companion" piece to Jeff Smith's upcoming Shazam mini series in 2004. So there's still hope! FUND --------------------------------------------- Precisely, fundacaoesfincter. Thats what they call capitalism, If the capitalist can give you what you want, at the price you can afford, then you and the capitalist both profit. And you are both happy. Of course, we are not interested in the capitalist who is either unwilling or unable to serve us. He or she can go out of business, because he or she just doesn't fit into the scheme of things. IP: Logged
trout New Member	posted November 28, 2002 07:07 PM I'd buy it, too. I've heard a lot of great things about this run. Never having read it before, I'm really interested in getting a reprinted version of this material. Brian IP: Logged
dadkrel Member	posted November 28, 2002 07:21 PM quote: Originally posted by trout: I'd buy it, too. I've heard a lot of great things about this run. Never having read it before, I'm really interested in getting a reprinted version of this material. Brian ---------------------------------------------- If you are talking about the SHAZAM! Archive Book of the Month Club, then check out the thread of the said title. IP: Logged
Shazamgrrl Member	posted December 20, 2002 06:00 AM Bump. Dang, I'm persistant. IP: Logged
Shazamgrrl Member	posted January 10, 2003 01:33 AM And ANOTHER bump. ------------------ "Oh man, I should've taken a plane... Tom did not tell me about sea-sickness! It's worse than hairballs!" "The Cynic knows the cost of everything, but the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson An ye harm none, do as ye will About the Author: Cynthia Finnegan is a long-time Marvel Family fan. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona, is a register cat rescuer, an avid reader of the Urban Fantasy and Sword & Sorcery genres, and an amateur cartoonist. Influences on her work include: Mercedes Lackey, Stephen King, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Tanya Huff, C.C. Beck, Rumiko Takahashi, Kate Bush, Otto Binder, J.R.R. Tolkien, Don Newton, H.G. Wells, E. Nelson Bridwell, Tori Amos, Mark Twain (whom she shares month and day of birth with), Albert Einstein, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Joss Whedon. IP: Logged
NecessaryImpurity Member	posted March 28, 2003 12:55 AM More bumping. This topic has been back-burnered awhile, so I thought I'd see if anyone else has something to add. If DC won't fast track "Shazam! Archives", is unable (for technical reasons) to Archive Junior right now, doesn't think the market is strong enough for Mary, and doesn't know what to do about Marvel Family, then howzabout this little project? This is actually something I think that could stay in print even if the Archives eventually get to these stories, since the serial would spread out over more than half a dozen Archives. Like "Crisis on Multiple Earths", "The Monster Society of Evil" talks to a whole different market than do the Archives. IP: Logged
Lee Semmens Member	posted March 28, 2003 05:44 AM I would love to see DC reprint this. As a reprint of a relatively recent book I imagine production costs for DC would be fairly minimal. I wouldn't mind if it was done as a TPB or hardcover. IP: Logged
Melkor New Member	posted March 28, 2003 08:08 AM Please Please PLEASE DC reprint this in a nice restored hardcover edition as soon as possible! Mark IP: Logged
CMCINTYRE3600 Member	posted March 28, 2003 09:26 AM Does anyone have a link to a website that talks a little more about this storyline? I've only vaugely heard of it before, an would like to learn more. I'd love see this in print. Would this be covered in the regular Shazam Archives if and when they get that far? Which titles does Shazam archive? For that matter, how many GA Marvel family titles were there, and what kind of continuity was there between them? I bought Shazam Archives vol 1 off the Ebay a week or so ago and have yet to receive it, so I haven't really read much GA Shazam, outside of the 100 pager they printed a year or so ago. If this would take 6 or so Archives to complete, I'd imagine that a TPB might be the best format for something so huge. Even if it wouldn't reduce the price that much, when you're talking in such big numbers, every little bit helps. If we're talking about 6 $50.00 sized volumes, then we're talking about $300 retail value. Even if you get them for $33 off Amazon that's still roughly $200 worth of book. If TPB's could reducet he price by even $10 (assuming, as some people have said, that an Archive TPB would still be about $40, and assuming that that discount carried through (33%) now we're talking about $27 books, with a combined price of about $160. Would it be worth saving $40? Well, that's another Archive right there. You tell me. Just food for thought. I'd find a way to get them either way. Chris IP: Logged
Mark Katzoff Member	posted March 28, 2003 10:31 AM The collection of the Monster Society of Evil story is around 240 pages, which would make for a slightly-overstuffed archive. The reason it will take so many archives to cover it is that the story stretched over 25 issues of Captain Marvel Adventures with a chapter per issue. As to the Shazam Golden Age titles, Captain Marvel was in Whiz, Captain Marvel Adventures and America's Greatest Comics (the Fawcett equivalent of World's Finest) Mary was in Wow Comics and Mary Marvel and Junior was in Captain Marvel Jr. and Master Comics. All of them were in Marvel Family. There was was also a funny animal spinoff Hoppy the Marvel Bunny who appeared in his own title and, IIRC, a funny animal anthology book. Other than Captain Marvel, Jr.'s origin, which crossed over from Whiz to Master, no stories crossed over between books. They were the equivalent of Action and Superman for Superman. Of the three Shazam volumes to date, the first volume is all Whiz Comics, the second volume includes Whiz, Special Edition Comics (a one-off all-Captain Marvel book) and Captain Marvel Adventures and the third volume includes stories from Whiz, Captain Marvel Adventures and America's Greatest Comics. Volume 2 includes a crossover with fellow Whiz feature Spy Smasher. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 28, 2003 01:04 PM quote: Originally posted by Lee Semmens: I would love to see DC reprint this. As a reprint of a relatively recent book I imagine production costs for DC would be fairly minimal. I wouldn't mind if it was done as a TPB or hardcover. I don't think so. The book (a) wasn't by DC, and (b) consisted of photographs of yellowed comic book pages (or portions of pages where they had to cut and paste for lack of an intact page to reproduce. Not something DC would be willing to reprint, I'm sure, even if they had access to the production materials Hawk used. So they'd have so start from scratch--and that means it has to be a high-end hardcover to cover expenses. IP: Logged
CMCINTYRE3600 Member	posted March 28, 2003 01:07 PM I've heard such good things about Vol 2, but I'm someone who wants to read these in order, so I'm going to wait untill I get vol 1 first. I have to admit that my Cap experiances are pretty much limited to 90's and newer material. I do have one Captian Marvel issue from the 70's written by Denny O'Neil, which was fun, but that's about it. I can't wait to dive into his GA adventures. Chris IP: Logged
Melkor New Member	posted March 28, 2003 02:17 PM quote: I've heard such good things about Vol 2, but I'm someone who wants to read these in order, so I'm going to wait untill I get vol 1 first. I have to admit that my Cap experiances are pretty much limited to 90's and newer material. I do have one Captian Marvel issue from the 70's written by Denny O'Neil, which was fun, but that's about it. I can't wait to dive into his GA adventures. Pretty much all the DC-created Captain Marvel stuff is crap compared to the real stuff. The golden age was the age when Cap reigned supreme in the hearts and minds of readers across America. The bronze age/modern age stuff, produced by DC, constantly compares Cap to Superman in a negative way, as if DC still can't get over the fact that Captain Marvel outsold Superman during the 1940s. get over it, DC. It was sixty years ago. Read the golden age stuff. It was the last time the character was treated with the respect he deserves. Mark IP: Logged
CMCINTYRE3600 Member	posted March 28, 2003 02:30 PM I don't know. Jerry Ordway had an obvious love for the character and, IMO, wrote some great comics during that period. POS was a title that, while not ground breaking or even exactly stunning, per say, was never anything less than enjoyable. It was one of the great work horses of comics. It sometimes got lost behind the glitz of most of what we saw in the 90's, but it never stopped just being enjoyable action adventure. Chris IP: Logged
Melkor New Member	posted March 28, 2003 03:25 PM quote: I don't know. Jerry Ordway had an obvious love for the character and, IMO, wrote some great comics during that period. POS was a title that, while not ground breaking or even exactly stunning, per say, was never anything less than enjoyable. It was one of the great work horses of comics. It sometimes got lost behind the glitz of most of what we saw in the 90's, but it never stopped just being enjoyable action adventure. I thought Ordway's heart was in the right place, but as a DC writer he just couldn't resist the now-obligatory "make Captain Marvel look bad when compared to Superman" stuff. Plus, I found his stories rather boring. Mark IP: Logged
Alexi Sivana Member	posted March 28, 2003 05:45 PM Sign me up! TPB or archive (tho I'd prefer an archive). I saw this once in a library and just drooled. I'd love to have my own copy. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 28, 2003 06:10 PM I liked most, if not all, of the post-Crisis Captain Marvel stories I've read. I liked the few World's Finest stories that I've read. And I've never detected an intentional desire in any of the writers of these stories to portray the Captain as second to Superman. IP: Logged

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